What’s up with the 3G 4Runner?

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Location probably plays a role. There are very few trails around me that a single locked, 33" tire truck with a decent driver couldn't finish pretty easily. Most of the hard stuff is optional. Even a lot of the big moab trails like Metal Masher or Kane Creek are like that. So a lot of guys who are underbuilt never really have issues on our runs.


It really is a toss up. Although I've seen first hand what 33s and atrac will do so....

Should have seen what 32s and atrac did for a couple years. Atrac just isn't capable for slow speed rock crawling maneuvering. It really relies on a certain amount of speed and rpms to work effectively, at least on the 4th gen platform. It could get me up a 3 foot waterfall, but it couldn't get me through an off camber slot canyon that required finesse to stay off the canyon wall.
 

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I guess I'm taking the progression into account too. You definitely can break shit on 33s, I've been lucky so far and besides my rack its all been maintenance items and nothing wild. Anyways. The progression in my mind and most people I know is always "once you get 35s, you regear" and for me at least that meant adding a front locker because I'm already in there. Now you're dual locked and can get into even more trouble. Getting peer pressured into obstacles because you have big tires now.

My truck did less dumb things on 33s. Maybe that's the better way to think about it...

Totally agree about the progression. The rig is one thing that progresses but so does the driver. If your new to off-road you tend to be a little gun shy. As you gain more skill and confidence you try harder stuff. So the driver and the rig grow until the driver either outgrows what the rig can actually do or the driver decides that he's happy with his current level and rig.

Or you do what @Tetten is doing. You stuff 40's on and pray your shit holds together. I'll go the other direction and build a buggy that can do what I want with less chance of it destroying itself.
 
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