Tesla Cybertruck - Offroad Capability?

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just based on looks id rather drive this one.

That one is way more appealing than the Tesla. Even the Rivian electric offering looks better than this abortion of a truck! Neither would make for more than a glorified overlander due to their wheelbases.

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Here’s wheelbase info from a Motortrend article

“The Cybertruck is 230.9 inches long and sports a 149.9-inch wheelbase with a 6.5-foot-long, 57-inch-wide bed out back. The Rivian is 217.1 inches long overall and has a 135.8 in wheelbase with a 4.5 foot-long bed behind it.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mo...ybertruck-rivian-r1t-compared-data-specs/amp/
 

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That one is way more appealing than the Tesla. Even the Rivian electric offering looks better than this abortion of a truck! Neither would make for more than a glorified overlander due to their wheelbases.

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Here’s wheelbase info from a Motortrend article

“The Cybertruck is 230.9 inches long and sports a 149.9-inch wheelbase with a 6.5-foot-long, 57-inch-wide bed out back. The Rivian is 217.1 inches long overall and has a 135.8 in wheelbase with a 4.5 foot-long bed behind it.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mo...ybertruck-rivian-r1t-compared-data-specs/amp/

damn the Rivian is actually pretty nice, more expensive but all models come with AWD and is more practical.
 

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They say they do. Think all e-cars are since there is a big motor there. Reason why the range can go so far in the city.
Isn't that the way they get like 80% of their braking power? Supposedly most hybrid/electric vehicles have extremely high brake life since they don't use their actual brakes nearly as much as a regular vehicle.
 

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I think the true calling of these will be endurance racing. They're pretty wide and long, drivetrains have very few moving parts for reliability, and you can swap batteries in the pits pretty easily (if it was designed for it), a really low cog, and less design constraints around a big engine and trans. Just gotta make air suspension desert friendly, or just swap for traditional coilovers. 70585445_120185849432641_6570369368371954916_n(1).jpg
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I think the true calling of these will be endurance racing. They're pretty wide and long, drivetrains have very few moving parts for reliability, and you can swap batteries in the pits pretty easily (if it was designed for it), a really low cog, and less design constraints around a big engine and trans. Just gotta make air suspension desert friendly, or just swap for traditional coilovers. View attachment 14846
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Ah, the new “never-seen-dirt-I-have-more-money-than-you” parked in the structure of the bougie mall truck is here.


Fuck that
 

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Ah, the new “never-seen-dirt-I-have-more-money-than-you” parked in the structure of the bougie mall truck is here.


Fuck that
It’s cheaper the raptor so they will stay at the top of that
 
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Ah, the new “never-seen-dirt-I-have-more-money-than-you” parked in the structure of the bougie mall truck is here.


Fuck that
The tire dressing though,hehe!And something about this,IDK why made me want to watch this flick from 1977.6D1A95A6-23E8-43E8-BBCB-DF1D72C695E9.jpeg715285A9-D915-45E8-AE8D-A26EA1DC9FD2.jpeg
 

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I think the true calling of these will be endurance racing. They're pretty wide and long, drivetrains have very few moving parts for reliability, and you can swap batteries in the pits pretty easily (if it was designed for it), a really low cog, and less design constraints around a big engine and trans. Just gotta make air suspension desert friendly, or just swap for traditional coilovers. View attachment 14846
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Thing'll get all of 80 miles worth of range under hard load.

Without being to much of an asshole, battery capacity sucks under heavy load. A lithium battery in a drill doing pilot holes will drill 1,000 of the damn things before dying.
Same battery, same drill, masonry bit and drilling for tapcons into CMUs, and it's dead after 20 holes.

Range goes to shit under load. It's how batteries work. Worse than ICEs.
 

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Thing'll get all of 80 miles worth of range under hard load.

Without being to much of an asshole, battery capacity sucks under heavy load. A lithium battery in a drill doing pilot holes will drill 1,000 of the damn things before dying.
Same battery, same drill, masonry bit and drilling for tapcons into CMUs, and it's dead after 20 holes.

Range goes to shit under load. It's how batteries work. Worse than ICEs.
I don't disagree, and it'll be a while before there's endurance anything from batteries. what about formula e? granted a lot less weight and they only race 80-100km but on the same pack the whole season, and from season 1 to 2 they saw a 100% improvement in batteries so there was no mid-race car switch. Plus everyone is focusing on electricity going forward so that rate of progression isn't impossible for the next few years, at least in my head.
 

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There's no surprise they can go a season on a single battery. Lithium packs take very well to repeated charges, and don't have a memory issue like NiCads. Again drawing from tools, Lithium ion battery packs are good for as many as 3,000 charges in heavy duty tools before seeing a significant drop in output. That's full bore, in an electric jackhammer, giving er shit for the full life if the charge, every charge.

Now someone might say "that's fucking tools vs cars!"
Which you'd think you'd be right about.
But the tech isn't far off. Just smaller. A lithium ion battery is a lithium ion battery. A car just has 500 pounds worth vs 1 pound in a drill.

The potential is in new materials used in batteries. Graphene is being worked on, but the more power you make a battery hold, the more unstable it is.

The real issue though, is the power grid. If we adopted electric vehicles at an exponential rate, in a decade the power grid would be failing. Our infrastructure can't handle a heat wave, much less 10 million vehicles (a drop in the bucket) being plugged in for 5 hours every night.
And, we'd be out of lithium.

Fact is, there's a shitton more oil on this planet than there is lithium. Way it works.
 

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Lithium is infinitely reusable, oil isn't.

Lithium isn't even rare. It's the 25th most abundant mineral in the earth's crust, and according to wookipedia there are 230 billion tons of it in the oceans. The problem is lithium doesn't occur in deposits like oil, iron, copper, etc. You have to process MASSIVE amounts of material to get lithium.
 

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Lithium is infinitely reusable, oil isn't.

Lithium isn't even rare. It's the 25th most abundant mineral in the earth's crust, and according to wookipedia there are 230 billion tons of it in the oceans. The problem is lithium doesn't occur in deposits like oil, iron, copper, etc. You have to process MASSIVE amounts of material to get lithium.

And so you're proposing. . . Ocean mining?
 
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