Stock width aftermarket lower control arms

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4runner DOA

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Sway bars don't limit travel. Only thing they do is to make it harder for the front suspension to articulate (one side up other side down). How much extra force is required is determined by the stiffness of the sway bar.

Fair enough. But limiting articulation limits travel does it not?
 

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Fair enough. But limiting articulation limits travel does it not?
Not technically. The "limit" would be total travel, not how much force required to achieve that travel.
For rock crawling I would not, nor do I, run an anti-sway bar. For go fast stuff I definitely would, because presumably the wheels on an axle(or end of a vehicle) would be traveling in the same plane together during major suspension movements.
 

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And to add my $.02, I now run DK stock length lowers as I bent the literal hell out of the stockers. The DKs have held up to two years plus of abuse and the only thing I have bent is the riveted on Dirt King logo plates on the front of them. And my DCLB Taco is a fat heavy bitch.
 

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Not technically. The "limit" would be total travel, not how much force required to achieve that travel.
For rock crawling I would not, nor do I, run an anti-sway bar. For go fast stuff I definitely would, because presumably the wheels on an axle(or end of a vehicle) would be traveling in the same plane together during major suspension movements.

Interesting. I haven't had sway bars, front or rear, since I started modding, but I would think I have more control over the front end during high speeds because it's not there. Allowing each side to work independent against the terrain. Guess that actually doesn't have anything do with travel numbers though.
 

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Interesting. I haven't had sway bars, front or rear, since I started modding, but I would think I have more control over the front end during high speeds because it's not there. Allowing each side to work independent against the terrain. Guess that actually doesn't have anything do with travel numbers though.
Sway bars help handling. IFS still lets the wheels move mostly independent but helps stabilize things in corners. It's a good trade off for high speed handling in the right situation. It all depends on suspension geometry. For some rigs you don't want a front sway bar but need a rear sway bar to counter any under steer. And vice versa for over steer. Also sway bar allows for a lower roll center while still keeping the vehicle from having a ton of (wait for it....) sway.
 
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Note on sway bars: the Toyota optional KDSS system is hydraulic. On the highway it handles like a car. On the Baja trip I never felt like I was lacking anything. There is a guy making a switch that keeps the system “open” allowing the pistons to freely cycle up and down which effectively makes it a quick disconnect. I am interested to see how it changes the high speed offroad stuff.
 
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